All of this occurred while keeping the flow of new security clearance investigations ⦠A year later, my loved one is attempting to get cleared and now has to answer questions about this [obviously conditional] weaponized personal feedback left by this vindictive individual on a "Inv Form 41." [–]boltgunnerCleared Professional 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). The investigators “dig deeper?” What does that mean? There are now five tiers (Tier 1 through Tier 5) which describe the specific requirements of each investigation. However, service members are subject to random reinvestigations at any time. when they check jpass it said pending eligibility. [–]WouldntUlike2know89 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children). Both are well under half of what they were last year. After an agency has requested an investigation for top secret clearance, youâll fill out a standard questionnaire for national security positions. and join one of thousands of communities. The government recently implemented a new tiered background investigation process. I accepted and submitted my e-qip for a T3 secret clearance for a large DoD aerospace contractor (e.g Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Spirit Aerosystems) for an engineering position in late November 2020. Huge difference. how would my new company i just signed the offer letter from pick up my old investigation that was stuck at adjudication about 4 months ago . So Secret is one level, top secret is a whole other level. Press J to jump to the feed. To my understanding, for a Secret investigation, they run all the databases and interview your CLOSE contacts. Who would you let drive your car home and who would you let drive your car cross country? SF-85P - Questionnaire for Public Trust Positions fillable PDF form. For a Top Secret, they try to speak to pretty much every person you list, and additional ask those people for names of people who might also know you... giving them contacts you didn't list and thereby didn't prep for contact by NBIB. Applicant must have an active Secret Clearance with at least 5 years of experience working as a network engineer on a government program, preferably the Navy and must meet certification requirements for an IAT Level 2 engineer. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I’m not going to go into any specifics of the details of each investigation type, but this is pretty much it. I received and accepted a job offer in early November that required a TS. SF-86 - Questionnaire for National Security Positions fillable PDF form. Posting PII/classified information will result in ban. With the new position I must maintain a TS/SCI. No personal attacks. And according to him, a lot of mentally unfit people got the same clearance. Always practice OPSEC. Also utilize r/ClearedJobs and r/ClearanceJobs. Special Note: Due to the personnel security investigations backlog, DoD extended Tier 3 (10 years) and Tier 5 (six years) reinvestigation with DNI endorsement. SEAD 4 - National Adjudicative Guidelines, Note: FY20 Q4 - Fastest 90% of investigations. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children), Can you get a secret with one misdemeanor charge on your record or no, [–]boltgunnerCleared Professional 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children). Im simply trying to show, although exaggerated yes, that there is a MASSIVE disparity in Secret vs TS. Troll and spam posts/comments will be deleted. Sorry to load a bunch of questions in one post, [–]PirateKiltFacility Security Officer 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (9 children). Civilians and ex-military members with security clearance are often treasured employees and often find it much easier to find security clearance jobs. [–]boltgunnerCleared Professional 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (8 children). Secret Clearance: 2 to 4 weeks (Prior to precessing the Secret clearance a Reliability Status is complete therefore the same conditions apply). Per USDI guidance the FSO should submit the Top Secret periodic reinvestigation request on the 6th anniversary of the investigation close date found in JPAS. On jpass itâs still said that my secret is eligible pending for adjudication. This 18-page form covers every place youâve lived and worked in the past 10 years, contact information for immediate family members, travel history, any contacts youâve had with âforeign nationals,â use of alcohol and drugs, ⦠Previously, an investigation couldnât move forward until fingerprints had been successfully obtained. So what is acceptable for a secret may not be acceptable for TS and above. The good news is the Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency (DCSA) has made significant progress in clearance processing timelines over the ⦠In my experience, secret information is simply not that high level. I am private sector so I don't know what the real weight of this info is. Finally, a periodic reinvestigation (PR) is required every five years for top-secret security clearance. But if you are completely upfront and honest about anything you have done your chances are much much higher. Only cleared jobs may be posted here and only in the monthly sticky threads. I am looking into retaining an employment attorney, in the event I discover this can limit future employment opportunities. Once the investigation is completed, military or civilian personnel may or may not be granted security clearance. 3.7 In all cases, individuals must be officially granted the required reliability status, secret security clearance, top secret security clearance, site access status or site access clearance (hereafter referred to as security status and/or security clearance) before they are assigned duties or assigned to a position, and/or before they are granted access to sensitive ⦠Please see the DoD Memorandum âExtension of Periodic Reinvestigation Timelines to Address the Background Investigation Backlogâ, Jan 17, 2017 for specific guidance. For a Top Secret, they try to speak to pretty much every person you list, and additional ask those people for names of people who might also know you... giving them contacts you didn't list and thereby didn't prep for contact by NBIB. The SCI designation is an add-on, not a special clearance level. A place to ask questions and share advice about the security clearance process. Eeekkk, this is a bad way to think about it. Excluding holidays, weekends, etc... it has been 30 days since submitting my eqip. Ive seen clearance jobs typically make 15-25% higher pay than normal jobs. If you've seen/completed the SF-86, you know how much data is collected. It is current, received it about a year ago. Secret clearance processing times for DoD/Industry are at 101 days for the fastest 90% of applicants, and Top Secret clearance processing times are 280 days. QuestionSecret vs. Top Secret Investigation (self.SecurityClearance). Top Secret: 8 months to 1 year for a new request (field investigation is conducted by CSIS). Prior to departure, the former employer implicitly threatened this person with negative clearance feedback if they chose to leave the company. Updates can be done under 2 months. Rendered by PID 2519 on r2-app-0c86560e31d3c7463 at 2021-02-09 02:44:58.810563+00:00 running 83a2172 country code: US. [–]WouldntUlike2know89 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (2 children). That question vexed U.S.⦠Former employer used "negative clearance feedback" as coercive leverage to try and stop a resignation, Job offer rescinded due to transfer delay, Progress on Security Clearance processing, Up for Tier 1 investigation and I have some questions. Periodic reinvestigation should be submitted every 10 years for a SECRET level clearance and every 15 years for a CONFIDENTIAL level clearance. The greater the access, the more trust the government needs to place in you. I am transferring agencies soon. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: A place to ask questions and share advice about the security clearance process. SSBI: Used for TOP SECRET (TS) clearances; Electronic record checks & numerous interviews of people who know you; You will be interviewed by an OPM investigator (federal or contractor.) SF-86 - Questionnaire for National Security Positions fillable PDF form. I also know the costs that are associated with a true top secret background check are extremely high and very detailed into your history. Is an interim out of the question? For some, it may be possible to have a revoked clearance reinstated. Once eApp is fully implemented for all levels of applications eQIP will go away and be fully ⦠emerged. Any tips on whether to serve and possibly indict the unprofessional manager who did this, is a bonus for me. This includes information on an agency’s clearance process to which you signed an NDA. Troll and spam posts/comments will be deleted. The vast majority of security clearances are issued at the Secret level. Would anyone know why there was such a long delay? In addition the greater pressure an enemy may seek to put on you. Please keep it civil. [–]NetworkNooob 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (3 children). A small government contractor is looking to hire a Network Engineer. Thinking of things as “just Secret” is a bad path to start down. In April, the Democratic chairman of the House Oversight Committee released a letter to the White House outlining a whistleblowerâs allegations raising questions about how security clearances were granted to ⦠Read and follow the Reddiquette before posting/voting. All kinds of things go into that. The T3R is used to meet the reinvestigation requirement for all individuals (including contractors) who have Confidential or Secret clearances. The terms, âpublic trust,â âSecret,â and âTop Secretâ are still commonly used to describe the security clearances obtained. It varies with the position that youâre in and any potential issues that may have come up. They can see every SF86 you have submitted, stuff from the 90s occasionally is brought up in some of my cases because someone listed it once and forgot to list it again later. Basically with that last question I mean what’s really the point of making a difference between secret and top secret? It's Feburary and still haven't heard anything back in regards to my clearance status. WASHINGTON â How do you keep a coveted top-secret U.S. government security clearance while working for a foreign spy service? I have situation with a loved one where a former employer was upset that this person chose to leave a cleared role, in order to further education. [–]Sixtydotnine 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children). The investigation that led to the revoked clearance must not out be of date. We dont check everything for Secret, and the more sensitive the information you could potentially access the more intense we screen you. To me it seems like an all or nothing issue, you’re either completely trustworthy or you’re not at all but I’m a novice to this subject, [–]boltgunnerCleared Professional 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (4 children). Information is classified based on how damaging it could be to national security if it were to get out. Military Security Clearance Disqualifiers Top Secret / Q Clearance (Tier 5 or T5) Allows cleared individuals access to information that reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources. Another key aspect of the background investigation for a Top Secret clearance is a thorough review of your finances, character and any possible criminal history⦠So be ready for that. I currently possess a secret. Apparently investigations go back to the 3rd or 4th grade and involve the FBI, but bad family relationships didn't stop my uncle from getting a top secret clearance to guard nuclear warheads. Hello. We are all here to help or get help. My secret clearance has been at the adjudication for about 4 months now , my jobs offer that was sponsoring that clearance was rescinded due of funding for about 4 months now. Even going so far as to say "How will you ever get hired again if you leave?" That was a solid way of putting it. Federal agencies will normally accept another agencyâs investigation as the basis for granting a security clearance, provided the applicantâs last security clearance investigation was completed within the past five years for a Top Secret clearance and 10 years for a Secret clearance, and there has not been a break in service of more than two years. SF-85 - Questionnaire for Non-Sensitive Positions fillable PDF form. Top-secret security clearances are granted after in-depth background checks and are required if government officials need access to highly classified information. This includes information on an agencyâs clearance process to which you signed an NDA. The sum total of all the information obtained during the investigation determines whether or not you ultimately receive a top secret clearance. Security clearance is essential for most personnel to complete their daily job. [–]NetworkNooob 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child). No personal attacks. SF-85P - Questionnaire for Public Trust Positions fillable PDF form. Proper two weeks notice was given, everything. Most things are deemed secret really even if you wouldn’t be able to do much with the info. This background ⦠Sorry for the rant, this is just a personal pet peeve. The same month, the director of National Counterintelligence and Security Center (NCSC) issued a statement concerning those who may have been impacted by the shutdown of government offices as a result of the pandemic. If something has been classified as Secret, somewhere an OCA had reason to believe it would harm national security. We are all here to help or get help. [–]sephstorm 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (1 child). Top-secret clearance takes four to eight months to complete (sometimes closer to a year depending on the applicant). Today The offer was rescinded because the transfer was taking too long. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 2519 on r2-app-0c86560e31d3c7463 at 2021-02-09 02:44:58.810563+00:00 running 83a2172 country code: US. Tier 5 Investigation (T5) formerly Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) this is the government-wide investigation required of those who need access to Top Secret classified national security information. If the point of doing a background investigation is to ensure that a person can be trusted with national security information, how is it that they can be deemed to be reliable with some sensitive information (secret), but not all or any information (top secret)? So I wont give a yes or no answer. SSBI-PR : 5 year review since your initial TS was granted; If youâve made some âmistakes,â it could be bye-bye for your clearance; No clearance=No job. TS however is only granted to info that can really harm national defense. Either, directly or by omission, to investigators or on government forms. © 2021 reddit inc. All rights reserved. If you are determined to be honest, hard-working, patriotic and of strong moral character, and not subject to potential coercion by a hostile agency or government, your odds of receiving a clearance are good. e-QIP - Web-based system to facilitate electronic transmission of investigative forms. A Tier 5 Investigation using an SF-86 is required for favorable adjudication at this level. Wark noted Delisleâs top-secret clearance had expired in 2011 but he continued to have access to sensitive databases. Adjudicative Desk Reference - A comprehensive collection of background information on the 13 categories of behavior considered when determining an individual’s eligibility for a security clearance. I’d say secret info is more like the pieces of a puzzle, while TS is the whole picture. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. If someone’s reliable enough for a secret, why wouldn’t they be able to get a top secret automatically? All this means that the government needs to do more to protect the information. Most Soldiers in the U.S. Army have some form of clearance--whether it be confidential, secret, top secret or top secret with access to ⦠There is a 700,000 case backlog of pending investigations, a 534 day average timeline to issue a Top Secret security clearance for DoD contract employees, and for the first time since 2011, the government Accountability office has put the security clearance process back on the High risk list. The Intelligence Authorization Act for FY 2020 set goals for security clearance processing times of an ambitious 90 days for a Top Secret clearance and 30 days for a Secret clearance. This sub is predominately for United States Security Clearance questions, but questions about clearances from other countries are welcome. Wark noted Delisle's top-secret clearance had expired in 2011 but he continued to have access to sensitive databases. I would like to know if this type of coercive behavior is illegal leveraging of an employee, and what sort of legal recourse my loved one may have for removing this information from their record. Please keep it civil. But the reverse is not true: a person cleared for TOP SECRET with access to X material can also access SECRET material in compartment X. Think about it from a different perspective. This is my second time going through a clearance investigation. Havenât heard anything from an investigator or per sec unit. SF-85 - Questionnaire for Non-Sensitive Positions fillable PDF form. What are the differences between the investigations for giving someone a secret clearance vs. a top secret? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. PII/classified information will result in ban. Do not encourage lying--directly or by omission--to investigators or on government forms. Apply Here The Single Scope Background Investigation (SSBI) has been ⦠In 2018 the Defense Information System Agency's National Background Investigation Services (NBIS) program office recently deputed eApp, the updated, more intuitive replacement to the old eQIP security clearance application for Secret (Tier 3) and Top Secret (Tier 5) investigations. Read and follow the Reddiquette before posting/voting. [–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (7 children), The other thing I was wondering about but maybe didn’t word my question the best is: Why is there such a distinction between granting of secret and granting of top secret? I don’t really get the concept. Only bit of information I have is my credit was soft pulled day after eqip submitted. You may trust your friend to watch your place for an hour. Depends on the misdemeanor, how honest you are about it, how long ago it happened, how mature you were at the time, what you have done to change. Each of these clearances ties to an investigative tier. Yes. This conversation was not recorded but definitely happened. e-QIP - Web-based system to facilitate electronic transmission of investigative forms. Adjudicative Desk Reference - A comprehensive collection of background information on the 13 categories of behavior considered when determining an individualâs eligibility for a security clearance. To my understanding, for a Secret investigation, they run all the databases and interview your CLOSE contacts. Has anyone else had a similar experience recently? Getting A Top Secret Security Clearance Reinstated After It Has Been Revoked. Reinvestigations are a thing of the past; Continuous Evaluation (CE) and Trusted Workforce 2.0 are the new buzzwords; the new Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency (DCSA) took over from the Defense Security Service and National Background Investigations Bureau. 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